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First Sight of 20MPH Proposal Throughout the Centre of Neston

Published: 22nd July 2021 15:59

Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council have issued a Traffic Regulation Order affecting the High Street area of Neston, proposing a 20MPH speed limit. 

Notice is hereby given that the Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council propose to make the following Traffic Regulation Order in accordance with the provisions of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.

Neston Town Council have already submitted comment and confirmed at the Community and Environment Committee Tuesday 20 July 2021 that further concerns will be reiterated.

PO624 - Neston Town Centre 20mph - PlanAccess the plan visual for more detail by clicking the image. The effect of the Order will be to introduce a 20mph speed limit on the following lengths of road:

  • Bridge Street for its entire length.
  • Brook Street between its junction with High Street and its junction with the access road to Post Office sorting office and
  • Sainsburys car park.
  • Chester Road from its junction with High Street for a distance of 82 metres.
  • High Street for its entire length.
  • Ladies Walk for its entire length.
  • Liverpool Road from its junction with High Street to a point 25 metres north of its junction with Ladies Walk.
  • Parkgate Road from its junction with High Street to a point 35 metres south east of its junction with Buggen Lane.
  • Raby Road between its junction with High Street and its junction with Ladies Walk.
  • Station Road from its junction with Bridge Street for a distance of approximately 100 metres to its closed end.

The Order will also consolidate existing speed limits in the area.

Full details are in the draft Order which, together with a plan showing the extents of the proposal, may be viewed in the Public Notices section of the Council's website, or at Neston Library, Parkgate Road (CH64 6QE) between the hours of 9am and 4.30pm Monday to Friday.

Copies may be obtained by emailing CWAC or via telephone request to 0300 123 7036.

All objections and other representations relating to the Order must be made in writing to the undersigned by Friday 13 August 2021 and objections must specify the grounds on which they are made. Any representations relating to the Order should specify the title of the Order (PO624) and may become available for public inspection.

Kieran Collins
Highways Commissioner

Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council
Highways Office Guilden Sutton
Guilden Sutton Lane
Guilden Sutton
Chester
CH3 7EX

e: engch@cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk

 

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John Cartlidge
At 16:39 on 22nd July 2021, John Cartlidge commented:
Love the idea, but of course silly waste of time and money on signage and Cheshire West Council officers time. (Neston Town Council always happy to find a way to waste other people's money.)

Average speed through Neston is probably barely 10mph as it is, and with the regular obstructive parking often slower. How about enforcing parking and current speed restrictions first, then see if there is a problem?
Steph
At 21:43 on 22nd July 2021, Steph commented:
Another classic example of Neston town council wasting money, here’s the plan, put up loads of signs and then do nothing to enforce it, I mean has anyone gone through Neston faster than 20mph in the past 20 years, the money would be better spent resurfacing bushell road which has got to be one of the worst roads on the Wirral...
Anthony A
At 22:43 on 22nd July 2021, Anthony A commented:
Have just looked at the council's website, as indicated in the story, and cannot see the draft Order so it leaves lots of questions open. Who has asked for this? Who has been consulted (it looks like NTC have comments but not sure what they are)? What problem is it seeking to solve? How many accidents/injuries/deaths have there been in the area concerned in the past, say, 5 years? Why is a 20 limit better than other possible measures? What is the cost - both financial and environmental, and what is the opportunity cost I.e. what won't get done because this is? I hope the council doc will reveal all this information. I'm all for solving problems when they exist but I'm not clear what the driver is here (no pun intended).
John Cartlidge
At 23:31 on 22nd July 2021, John Cartlidge commented:
Traffic management in Neston is overall disjointed and frankly bonkers.

There are three changes of speed limits within 100 yards of Allans Meadow /Burton Road.

A speed bump has been put in place outside the primary school affecting traffic, causing noise and added pollution for residents and pupils, and damaging vehicles 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, even though school crossing times are an hour so, five days a week, 9 months of the year, plus, just to add to the madness, there is a crossing attendant less than 100 yards away.

In the town, there is a crossing that isn’t, and a zebra crossing a few yards before a pelican crossing.

Parking enforcement is completely absent leading to complete log jams whenever a business takes a delivery, or a trade van driver thinks the zig zag markings are just for their use, or an entitled person thinks their need to just stop for a moment to post a letter is more important than the through flow of traffic.

Methinks fresh eyes needed.
local yokel
At 11:51 on 23rd July 2021, local yokel commented:
I wonder how many people know that the introduction of 20mph speed restriction zones is a KPI (Key Performance Indicator) on local authorities imposed by central government? It's not really about road safety - it's purely political.
CO Jones
At 14:52 on 23rd July 2021, CO Jones commented:
Quote: A speed bump has been put in place outside the primary school affecting traffic, causing noise and added pollution for residents and pupils, and damaging vehicles 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, even though school crossing times are an hour so, five days a week, 9 months of the year, plus, just to add to the madness, there is a crossing attendant less than 100 yards away.Unquote

Hi John. Are you saying this crossing is only to be recognised as a zebra crossing at times that schools are filling and emptying? Is that part of the legislation? I am interested in this from a regular pedestrian perspective using that crossing at the weekend and other none school times.

It baffles me that drivers come along Burton Road at 40 miles an hour plus and fail to stop at the crossing to allow me to cross with the dog because it is not a school day. Is the legislation that the crossing ceases to be a safe pedestrian crossing point on a Saturday morning?

its an absolute blessing that crossing and goes some way to countering the complete morons who speed along that road and then slam on their anchors to pass under the Wirral Way. I wish it was higher and more challenging for the self centered speeders.
John Cartlidge
At 15:42 on 23rd July 2021, John Cartlidge commented:
Hi CO Jones,
The speed limit at that location is 20 mph, so I will note you agree a 20 mph limit is pointless without enforcement of which there is none. I respectfully suggest you report the speeders you observe to the Police.
All the best,
John.
CO Jones
At 16:11 on 23rd July 2021, CO Jones commented:
? what about the crossing being a pedestrian crossing 365 days a year 24 - 7 and the drivers respect that?

Which is what i was really asking as you were clearly implying that it only really matters for 30 mins in the morning and 30 mins in the afternoon on school day's.

John Cartlidge
At 16:26 on 23rd July 2021, John Cartlidge commented:
"what about the crossing being a pedestrian crossing 365 days a year 24 - 7 and the drivers respect that"

Clearly it is.

You still need to report those speeders you spot. Police can have 'a word' with drivers, and whilst I don't know what the system is called, can make a record of ASBO driving or some such which can lead to action.
Snapdragon
At 18:16 on 24th July 2021, Snapdragon commented:
The Police cannot and will not enforce a 20mph limit - no resources. CPSOs are next to useless for such matters. As CoJo says, very few observe the 20 mph along Burton Rd into Bridge Street. Perhaps a few speed cameras would have an effect and bring in some useful revenue!

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