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Fifties Memories of a Paulsgrove Lad

Published: 25th February 2010 08:37

 Barry Jenson (second from left) with brother Dave and friends Hi, I am Barry Jenson and I am just going to write a little story about my life as child living in the Portsmouth/ Paulsgrove area.

I moved from Devon in about 1948 with my parents to a new house in Newport  Rd in Cosham. These houses or prefabs were demolished just before or around the same time as the Motorway Roundabout at Hilsea  was constructed.

Our garden in Newport Rd backed onto the King George playing fields. At this time it wasn't a playing field. I can remember as a little tot watching a track driven tractor  ploughing this field which I have since found out used to be the place where all Portsmouth Rubbish was tipped. I might be wrong on this point. It seemed only yesterday that I was watching this tractor with all the birds  following it picking out the worms that had been ploughed up. 

Since these early days I have had a great love of looking at old tractors. Not so much as the new ones as they have no charm about them. The reason perhaps  being, the old ones burnt a different sort of fuel and the smell of the engines was something I will always remember.

We stayed at Newport Rd for a while and then my parents did an exchange with a family at No24 Camcross Close in  Paulsgrove. I remember  quite clearly moving there. Mum and dad did all the moving and my sisters and younger brother were playing about while I was out watching the workmen tarmac the footpath in the close.

At the front of our house was a field which I played on quite a lot. I soon got to know the people in the street, Our close neighbour was Mr and Mrs Giles. They lived at No 22.On the other side of the alley that divided the houses was Mr and Mrs Weston. I remember running next door to her house because I had broken a bottle of milk and my mum wasn't very pleased so I ran. 

Also in the street were the families: No 40 were the Bunn family, No 38 was the Reading's, at No 36 were the Rileys.  No34 lived the Weatherby's. Mrs Weatherby  bred English Bulldogs. Strange really these dogs looked bigger than the same breed as today. At No32 lived The Hammond family. I occasionaly see David Hammond in Cosham. Don't think he really remembers me. At No 30 lived The Hughs family. I used to play with Ray (RIP) a lot when I was a little boy. At No 28 was The Wallace family. Mrs Wallace recently passed away. Paddy still lives in his house at the top of Elkstone Rd.  I used to see him regularly pottering about in his Garden. I haven't seen him for a while now. At No 26 was The Hammond family whom I have already mentioned. Mr and Mrs Weston had a  lady living with them who we knew as Granny O' keith.

It wasn't long after we moved to Camcross Close that Mrs Weston and Granny O'Keith died. At  No 20 lived the Cheeseman  family. My elder sister Mona later married Jerry Cheeseman, one of the son's. At No 18 lived the Page Family. I don't think they stayed in the street to long before moving on. At No 16 lived the Dorey  family. I can remember playing with John quite a lot. Mr Dorey drove a small petrol tanker that used to park in the cul de sac at the top of Withington Rd. We used to climb on the back of the tanker by the ladder that was used to check the contents of the tanker by the driver. We were often chased off of it by Mr Dorey. I can only remember one or two other people at that end of the street. There used to be The Harris family and I think they lived at about No 12.I can also remember the Goodalls and I believe they lived at No 10. At No 6 lived the Flint family. I can remember playing with David a few times. At No 1 lived the Lane family. No 2 the Doswells. At No 11 lived the Stallard family. Maureen was one of my childhood girlfriends. At No 13 lived The Davidsons. At No 15 lived Mr and Mrs Bond. At No 17 lived the Roussens. No 19 lived The Woods family. No 21 live the Cunninghams, at No23 The Colemans lived and at No 25 my good friends the Coles lived. I spent many a day with Peter(rip).over the hill. Playing on the swings that had been put into the tree's by the bigger lads. We had to wait until they finished playing before they would let us have ago on the swing. We also used to play around the old air raid shelters that were there. This was just north of the ASWE site on the Southwick Rd.

These shelters have all been filled in or demolished. Our parents didn't mind us going over there for the day as things seemed a bit safer then. We always had good fun. We also spent many a day playing in Bluebell forest. That is the name we knew it as. It was just near the air raid shelters. We did all our hazel nut picking and in the early summer we used to pick the bluebells. We would walk home with our arms full of them.

One morning in 1953 ,I woke up to the sound of someone banging. I looked out of my bedroom window and saw Mr Cheeseman and another man making something. It ended up being a platform as this was the day of the street party for the Queens coronation.  It was an overcast day. I remember winning a red, white and blue sponge ball in a race. All the activities were done in the Close. By all accounts most streets had street parties but I think perhaps on different days.

As I got a bit older,I got new friends because of going to school. One particular day, I was going down Withington Rd on a friend's go cart and I then met one of my lifetime friends. He lived at 44 Colesbourne Rd and his name was John Hale. He lived there all the time until he got married. I used to camp out in John's garden in his  tent. We used to go scrumping sometimes during the night. We also watched a children's tv program being filmed in Paulsgrove chalkpit. I am almost sure it was called The firm Of The girderstone. We sat  there in the early hours of the morning watching and even had sandwiches given us. That is another place we spent hours playing in, The   Cave!! You had to be very careful and not let the watchman catch you there. I think his name was Mr Hayward?

We would always find something exciting to do.

Another thing I would love doing which is now totally illegal now was bird nesting. Most lads seemed to do this. We would collect different eggs, blow the yoke out and start a collection. Not allowed now and a good job too.

I would also go train spotting. I would go down to the bridge in Racecourse Lane and be there all day. The steps of the old racecourse were there then and I feel sure they are still in the bushes somewhere   covered with scrub. We would take the number of each train we saw and make a collection. The more well off boys would have a train spotters book and would underline the trains they spotted. I would also do this after school. I would leave school, Paulsgrove East Infants, which is now called Saxon Shore and Westfield Junior School. We would go down Connaught  Lane and wait until the 4.25 west country streak or express would pass and see if it was one we hadn't seen before. We then would wait until 4.35 to see a class Q1 train. We would then go home and have our bread and jam for tea. At night I wasn't allowed out late. My younger brother and my sisters would have to go to bed and listen to my elder sister and her friends play rounders outside of our house, No24. This square of green unlike others in the area is still there. I used to sit at my bedroom window and watch them. I always wished I was out there with them. It always seemed unfair to me.

As I got a little older, my friends increased. In the summer I would go up on the hill to do some sledging. There used to be lots of lads up there on all sorts of sledges. They would even use lino to slide on.

One thing I will always's remember was the amount of dogs roaming the streets. There seemed to be dogs mess on every tuft of grass. You certainly had to watch out where you walked or sat. Mind you, where I live now there seems to be increasing amount of mess being left by the dog walkers.

I also remember the council painters that would turn up every couple of years to paint the tin houses. Their hut was on what appeared to be old cart horse wheels. It was towed to site by truck. This was where their paint was stored overnight and was also the place they would brew there cuppa.

They would have their ladders and put paint stripper on the tin houses and then strip all the old paint off before repainting.

There used to all different coloured houses on the estate. These prefabs were smashing to live in. They would be nice and warm in the winter and quite cool in the summer. In our house, we would be careful with the coal or coke because of the costs.

Another thing you would often see in the winter was chimney fires. People stoking their fires but never having their chimney cleaned. My father had his own set of chimney rods and brush to do his own.

When I  was a lad, you would see house fires. There was 3 fires within 200yds of my home. One in Colesbourne  Rd. and another two in Elkstone rd. The one in Colesbourne rd was apparently started when someone was repairing their motorbike in the kitchen when a petrol leak was ignited and the house burnt down.

One thing I do remember very well in those were the cold winters. It seemed like it snowed most winters and in those days I only had socks to put on my hands. Our shoes more often than not had holes in them. It was not because we were neglected, it was just that money was short. My dad worked all the hours he could. Weekends he worked at Papps and son piano dealers that had a shop in Fratton Rd. I often would go with him on his bike which had a child seat attached on the cross bar. My dad was a French polisher and would be required to make good any scratches that were found on the new pianos. I think my dad must have been one of the best in his job around the Portsmouth area. He sometimes would ride his bike to Southampton docks to work on the big liners. His hobbies  before he started a family was cycling. He used to take a couple of us to the cycle track at Alexandra Park to watch the bike racing. His brother was also keen on cycling. This hobby stayed with him until the last days of his life. He would often go out on the Funtington Rd and watch the cyclists on time trials on a Sunday.

When I attended the Junior school, I met a few new friends. One was Vic Hillman. We stayed pals until I got married in 1967. I lost track of Vic until I  and my wife were invited to a friends 60th birthday party. It was great to see him after all these years!! Me and Vic spent many a day mucking about over in Bluebell woods and often down in Southwick. We would venture into the grounds of HMS Dryad and hope we would miss the regular patrols by the navy. We only ever got caught once and that was for going into the pigs sty where they slept. We were smartly taken up to the police house in Southwick village for a good old telling off.

I got my very first taste of the law when, later, I and a few more so called pals decided to pull up Mangle Wurzles and potatoes out of Farmer Cutlers field. I went to court in Fareham with my dad and I was fined 7s 6p.This was the day after my birthday. I did not get anything for my birthday that year. I also got a good telling off from my teacher. He found out about it because it appeared in the Evening News. When you think what goes on now a days with real criminals, I felt  really hard done by.

Although I and my friends had some smashing days over the hill, I will always remember the time I was taken to court and put in front of the village bobby. Perhaps that did me some good. I have been quite a law full person and I try and follow my fathers hard working ways.

During the Autumn times in those days we would either go over Portsdown hill in search of conkers and sweet chestnuts. More often than not we would go into Coopers Farm or, to some people,  Paulsgrove House. We got into his grounds one of two ways. We would either cross the railway lines and as it was only steam trains in those days, it wasn't too much of a problem. The problem was not getting caught by the police or even the railway people. The other way was by going under the railway lines by way of the old tunnel that Mr Cooper used to get to his shelters in Paulsgrove quarry. This tunnel had been filled in and you could only get there by crawling through. There are a couple of pictures in some books that have been published by a local author showing this track.  As you got to the middle of the tunnel , it got  more spacious and as you made it to the opposite side it got tight again. We would often lay under the tunnel as steam trains thundered over head. This is the way we would collect our conkers. He also had crab apples or we called them cherry apples. To get these you had to venture further into his land and risk getting caught. If any one saw you, you would either make a dash for either The Southampton rd side of his land or you had to run quickly to get back to the railway lines hoping there wasn't a train coming. If there was, you had to go under the tunnel again. Mr Cooper wouldn't hesitate in firing a pellet gun at you. They didn't have the range but you ran anyway.

The field along the railway lines were just humps and bumps. I think all this spoil was created when they built the Paulsgrove estate. There used to be horses & goats tethered there.

In the early fifties, Paulsgrove shops as we know them didn't exist. There was a few shops at the bottom of Nailsworth Rd. They consisted of  a Coop,  Pinks,  and I  believe Jerams butchers also had a shop there. I also think Morleys had a sweet shop there. These I think were demolished in the late 50s.They were old Nissan hut shaped with a concrete frontage. I remember falling down a step in the Coop and cutting my leg open. The shop keeper put some iodine on the cut and by God didn't that sting.

The new shops appeared it seemed out of the blue. As a child you didn't need to go that far along to see them building them. My parents probably did. I only knew about the shops when my mum and dad started using them. I can remember there being a fish and chip shop there. I think the chip shop was called Newmans. It was good because if you could collect enough old newspapers Mr Newman would give some chips or the batter pieces for your efforts.

Next to that shop was Brockways the hardware store. That was where you got your light bulbs , paraffin and anything else that was needed in the home. Next to that shop was Jerams the butchers. I think he was the only butcher along the shops in those days. Morleys was the next shop and my favourite. This where my mum would take her ration book and perhaps buy me some sweets. It is also the place would we would go around bonfire night. We would go penny for the guying and what you collected you spent on your fireworks. It was always fun at that time of the year. All the local boys could be seen going up Portsdown Hill and dragging bushes back. There was always  competion among us to see who could build the biggest bommie.

The days after bonfire night, we would walk the fields looking for the rocket sticks while trying to avoid the dogs mess.

Some thing else I remember well it was always foggy at that time of the year. I now know it was smog. Anyway , back to the shops I remember. In that section was Pinks the grocers .I can recall they had an overhead cash machine. When the shopkeeper or the person that was serving you got your money, it was put in a tin of some sort and went across the ceiling to the waiting cashier, I suppose in their office? This shop always had a moving puppet at xmas time in there window, normally having a tipple. I think the post office was there. Across the road I think was Peters and Sons wine merchant. In those days he seemed a right misser and I don't think he liked kids. I also think Tremletts were there. Next shop to the chemist was Connell Brothers. You had all the toys in there, bikes, train sets and lots of other goodies that the kids liked. I can remember at my home, a big row over the money and us kids not having anything for xmas. This was normal in my house. Dinners thrown across the room left vivid memories with me. It is a good job I used to get out of it and go over the hill. Anyway ,after this row my dad took me and my younger brother to Connells and bought us a cheap train set. It was a Hornby though and I think perhaps my dad paid weekly for it. Nowadays some  people think things are hard. Unless you are in your 60s or older you just don't know what hard is.

Anyway, back to the shops. Next to connells I believe was a small  sweet shop.I know there was one called Winchesters but I don't know if that was the original shop. I then think that next to that was possibly Smith and Cospers and a Chapmans Laundry shop.

I think the row of shops starting with the Co-op came a bit later.

Opposite the shops on the green there was an enormous dead oak tree. I think this tree was cut down in the late 50s.There was also the remnants of an old footpath that ran from the direction of the shops up towards Elkstone rd. I think this was the continuation of  Racecourse Lane. This must have been cut in half when they developed the new shops. These shops have been used by myself and my family since the 50s.

I can remember one day playing in an under ground den that had been built by the bigger boys. You had to enter this den through a hole in the top which was covered by a dustbin lid. I entered the den through the top, jumped, landed on my knees and unfortunately landed on a broken bottle. My mum rushed me to the doctors which was then in a brick house in Elkstone road. It was the first brick house travelling down Elkstone Rd past  Winchcombe Rd. I was told it was Dr Rutherfords.  He stitched me up and I still bear the scar to this day. I know this much, It didn't half hurt.

After this accident,one old lady in Camcross gave me a couple of pet mice with a cage. Worst thing about this, the shed where they were kept became overrun with mice and my dad ended up getting rid of them somehow?? Perhaps down the outside toilet. Never had mice again.

Another thing that  has always been in my mind, my mum and dad didn't have a telly, so at tea time we would go and stand on Mr Weston's wall and peer over the hedge at his tv. This was something we had never seen before. Mr Weston was good man. He would call us in to watch Childrens Hour. We had to go out when it had finished. We used to like the Lone ranger, Cisco Kid and The Range Rider. Great kids programs they were. Dont make them like that anymore.

Mum and dad didn't get their tv  for another year or two. We had to listen to the radio. Programs  like "Take your pick" or "A  shilling a second". Take your pick was made for the tv later on in the 60s ,70s.

As the time went on we began to see more  cars on the roads. So another craze developed. You would find boys and girls sitting on the side of the roads waiting for a different car to go by and take its number.You could wait a long time between cars. And almost all the cars were black. Nowadays you hardly ever see a black one. Every other colour but not black.

These are just some of my boyhood memories

Barry

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Mick B
At 11:55 on 25th February 2010, Mick B commented:
Barry. I bet you remember the bridge at the south end of Southwick village, that was one entrance to Dryad lake.

How about "Rons" newsagents?

I remember (with others) cutting down smaller tree's and some large bushes from Paulsgrove House grounds and dragging them over the railway lines to chuck on the bonfire for Nov 5th.

The name Brian Mould (who used to do most of the wedding pics in the area) has been mentioned in other postings regarding The Grove Club. I am still in touch with Brian, but he's now living in Portsmouth City Centre, I dont think he's doing much in the way of wedding pics these days though. I will ask if he has any pics from the 60's/70's loafing around somewhere when I hear from him next.

I remember my parents buying me a 5 speed racing bike from Connels, exactly the same as someone (Jessie Jordan) that lived further up Beverston Rd where I lived then. Jessie went on to build & ride custom motorbikes, last time I heard of him he worked for The Times newspaper.

Mick Bradley.
Barry
At 12:54 on 25th February 2010, Barry commented:
Thanks Mike,perhaps when you see Brian again,ask him if he has any old pics that he took at the Grove Club.I think he was the photographer that used to do courses there.I know that loads were taken.I just feel sure some one has some pics.I also think that Rons newsagent came along way after the days i have written about
Thanks again ,,,,Barry
Barry
At 12:56 on 25th February 2010, Barry commented:
And yes Mike ,i do remember going under the road via the tunnel and then climbing up onto a barb wire fence to gain entry,,good days.
Barry
Barry
At 11:35 on 16th March 2010, Barry commented:
Whilethinking about my days as a lad,i can remember going with my sister pushing an old pram and buying coal and coke from behind the Odeon Cosham.I think it was perhaps Baths & Son coal merchants.It was always a hard push back.I can also remember going to collect free orange juice and i think castor oil from a hut which used to be behind St Michaels Church.There used to be a little white building at the bottom of Ludlow Rd more or less where the new houses have been built,next to the prefabs.I think this was some form of church or a place for worship.Not sure what denomination it was though?
Barry
At 08:42 on 9th April 2010, Barry commented:
Hi again,its Barry Jenson again!!,can anyone remember the old jetty that ran just about where the bund rd to Port Solent is?I am sure it used to be a fuel jetty.I can remember walking out on this in the early 50s with my friend from Camcross Close,Alan Cheeseman (RIP).You had to be very carefull while walking out on this pier because the wooden planks used as the walkway were either rotten or even missing.You then had to have a good hand on the metal railing to stop yourself falling into the mud if the tide was out or into the water if it was in.The local lads used to use it as diving platform.I never used it as such because at that age i could not swim.I also remember how black the mud used to be at this are.I suppose because all of the shipping in the harbour being refuelled?
Regards Barry Jenson
twosheds
At 22:39 on 17th April 2010, twosheds commented:
Hello Barry
I lived at 22 Elkstone Road and my mate was Jimmy Reglar who lived in Colesbourne Road. We often camped in the field at the back of his house and in front of yours.

I particularly remember your pretty sister Pamela. I had a crush on her when I was about 12.

I now live on the Southampton Road where all the Paulsgrove kids used to scrump.

Regards.

Eddie Cappleman
Barry
At 10:49 on 19th April 2010, Barry commented:
Hi Eddie,sorry i can not remember you as are probably the same age as Pam.Pam as far as i know is still fine.She married John Parker from Sudbury Rd.I also knew Jimmy (rip).I started to talk to Jim when we were both in our 40s.I think he was a plant fitter for one of the local plant hire firms.You probably remember the things i have mentioned in my little story.My head is full of childhood memories thank god.
Take care Eddie and thanks for the message.
Alice
At 14:58 on 21st August 2010, Alice commented:
Hi Barry, I'm Ron Doswell and we lived at no. 5 Camcross when I was a child.(Not no. 2, that was the Saints). We moved up from Milton when I was five. I have an older sister, Maureen (who sent me this article) living in Australia, and two younger brothers Trevor and Michael. I live just round the corner from you in Ridgeway Close now. I enjoyed reading your article very much, it is lovely to remember the "Good old days". Rgds. Ron Doswell.
Barry
At 08:31 on 22nd August 2010, Barry commented:
Hi Ron,nice to hear from you.I know where you live because i used to get your mail through our door now and again.Why dont you pop round now and then for a cuppa No 10
Barry
Delia
At 12:00 on 5th December 2011, Delia commented:
Hi Barry. I'm researching the Cheeseman family. After stumbling on your article I shared it with my mother in law. Jerry Cheeseman would be her uncle!
I was wondering if you, or anyone else out there could remember Mr or Mrs Cheesemans first name? My mother in law didn't have much contact with them, so we're stuck!
The memories people have of friends and places are so valuable. Thanks for taking the time to share them
Delia
Barry
At 19:59 on 11th December 2011, Barry commented:
Hello Dehlia,if you are talking about my brother in law Jerry who at that time in Camcross Close No 20,his parents names were Elsie May,,,Albert Edward.There children were ,Fred,Rhoda,Maureen,Francis,Bert,Dorothy,Alan and of course Jerry.Perhaps we are not talking about the same people.What is your maiden name.Perhaps your m/i/law knew my sister.
Barry
Delia
At 14:55 on 12th December 2011, Delia commented:
Hi Barry. Thanks for getting back to me. That's a terrific help. My m-in-law is Francis' daughter Vanessa. The rest of her family are still around the area, although we're now in North Hants. She remembers Mona aswell.
Such a small world!
Delia
Barry
At 18:47 on 12th December 2011, Barry commented:
Hello again Dehlia,glad i was some help.I see Mona and Jerry quite often.Need anymore info ,get in touch private.
Regards Barry
lorri66
At 20:12 on 3rd February 2012, lorri66 commented:
Hi Delia. I have stumbled on your post by chance as I was reading Barrys wonderful article and was suprised to say the least that my family were mentioned !! I am Rhoda Cheesemans (RIP)daughter and would love to find out some more about my families history. so I think your mum in law is my cousin, and would like to share info. thanks. you can e-mail me if you like.
lorri66
At 20:20 on 3rd February 2012, lorri66 commented:
Hi Barry RE above post, regarding the Cheesemans, I would be grateful if you could pass fondest regards to Mona and Jerry next time you see them as I lost contact with them after my mums funeral but would like to get in touch. Also thank you for your article it jogged some memories that my mum told me about. knd regards(Rhoda Cheesemans daughter)
Barry
At 14:35 on 6th February 2012, Barry commented:
Hi, i have had a word with my Mona and Jerry,they send there love.You can mail me private if you wish.The owner of the site has details.
Regards Barry
goodie
At 16:02 on 8th May 2012, goodie commented:
Hi Have just found this site and its great to read about times passed. I too played on the hill and over it in the Bluebell woods. I lived at 100 Leominster Road . I attended Paulsgrove East Infants school in 1951 The Headmistress was Mrs Wilson. I remember the fish and chip shop, the old oak tree at the bottom of Elkston road and Smith and Vospers cake shop . What happened to the Submarine in the creek?The film that was shot in the chalk pit was The firm of Girdlestone , a six part drama for B.B.C's childrens t.v. Even after 60 years I will never forget my growing up in Paulsgrove.
A lot of water has passed under Southwick bridge since then
goodie
At 16:02 on 8th May 2012, goodie commented:
Hi Have just found this site and its great to read about times passed. I too played on the hill and over it in the Bluebell woods. I lived at 100 Leominster Road . I attended Paulsgrove East Infants school in 1951 The Headmistress was Mrs Wilson. I remember the fish and chip shop, the old oak tree at the bottom of Elkston road and Smith and Vospers cake shop . What happened to the Submarine in the creek?The film that was shot in the chalk pit was The firm of Girdlestone , a six part drama for B.B.C's childrens t.v. Even after 60 years I will never forget my growing up in Paulsgrove.
A lot of water has passed under Southwick bridge since then
goodie
At 16:07 on 8th May 2012, goodie commented:
Sorry forgot to say Thanks for Barry's memories
Dave Good
twosheds
At 18:53 on 12th September 2013, twosheds commented:
Hello Barry,
I'm visiting my friend Tony Jeram in South Carolina.
Does anybody remember Jerams the butchers. Tony had 3 sisters
Margerita, Sonia and Sandra. Tony's busy reading your story now, enjoying all the nostalgia.
It's a great read and while visiting I introduced him to About my area and the old days.

Thanks
Eddie Cappleman
Barry
At 13:19 on 22nd September 2013, Barry commented:
Hello again Eddie,i remember Jerams butchers shop well.Perhaps you knew Billy Gibbs from Lowestoft Rd..He is also in S/Carolina..Was in Folly Beach,and Hi to your old mate Tony.He might remember my sister Pam..
TJ
At 17:55 on 11th October 2013, TJ commented:
Hi Barry.
After my father sold the Butchers shop we moved to Portchester.
Joe and Alma Morley also moved over there, living in Hospital Lane.
I went into the RAF when I was 17 and was gone for 12.5yrs.
I left and worked for Vospers, Camper and Nicholsons then started my own business. I have been in the US now for 18yrs. so as far as remembering people from the past it is not easy. It isn't until someone like Eddie mentions somebody from the past that it all starts to come back. I retired 2yrs ago from Boeing where I was a production Inspector on the new 787 dream liner. Great job, enjoyed my time there. A lot of photos that I would have had from those days at Paulsgrove and school have sadly disappeared.
Next time that I am in the UK , which will be 2014 April. I will try
and locate them. TJ.





pete
At 22:58 on 11th February 2014, pete commented:
hi barry, i enjoyed reading your story. my memories of growing up in paulsgrove are very similar. i moved to 49 abbeydore road in 1949 when i was i year old.i delivered papers to camcross between 62 &64. i worked for the shop in cheltenham road. my round started in the flats opposite the old library & covered all the roads off wooferton & finished at the top of elkston road. i married christine long who lived in leominster road. we moved to leigh park in 68. moved back to leominster road in the 4 bed houses opposite the chalkpit entrance in 70.about 72 moved to newbolt road. we now live in farlington. i think i read somewhere you married a girl called henderson. if so would she have had a brother named stuart because i went to school with him. christine remembers the name jenson & where you lived. possibly you knew her. regards, pete
Barry
At 17:24 on 13th February 2014, Barry commented:
Hello Pete,not sure of your sir name..Yes you are right Stewart was my brother in law but unfortunately died a number of years ago.I married Lynne who was Stewarts sister.They lived at 96 Ludlow rd Unfortunately Lynne died just after her 63third birthday after a massive stroke on July 26th last year .i miss her dreadfully..If you look on this site in relation the Paulsgrove sec school you can see Stewart which i believe was the catering class .There is a cross on Stewart.If you need any more info on Stewart or Lynne mail me private Regards
Barry
At 17:25 on 13th February 2014, Barry commented:
Oh ,by the way what was your wifes maiden name
pete
At 20:21 on 14th February 2014, pete commented:
thank for your reply barry. sorry to hear about stewart& lynne. my wifes name was christine long. she lived in leominster road,top of elkston & over to the right in a brick house. she has a brother dave & sisters jean & mary. my surname is board. i have a brother dave & a sister pam, regards, pete.
Barry
At 16:20 on 15th February 2014, Barry commented:
Hi again Pete,i think my sister Pam or Mona,knew one of the girls and i vaigley remember Dave.They knew Penny and Margaret Smart I think my Pam went out with Wally Smart.
Regards
jan
At 11:12 on 27th February 2014, jan commented:
jan
At 11:20 on 27th February 2014, jan commented:
hi it was lovely reading your memories i also lived in paulsgrove we moved to 108 falmouth road when i was about 3 i had three brothers micky paul and robert and a sister teresa . we spent many hours up the bluebell woods in paulsgrove secondary school i used to be in the netball team i can remember some of the girls names ther e was an irene shears she was the center rita i believe haywood myself janet huff i think there was a lorraine tall girl who had eleven brothers. the teachers name was miss purvis does any one else remember any of this or me i know my best friend teresa lives in poets corner i am living in australia after leaving england in 1973
ChocolateTeapot
At 11:33 on 3rd July 2014, ChocolateTeapot commented:
Barry, Many thanks for reviving memories of Paulsgrove in the 50's-60's. I'm Malcolm Regler and we lived in Colesbourne Road. My late brother, Jim, who was 5 years older than me, has already been mentioned by Eddie Cappleman above (hi, Eddie, trust you're well). I recall the 'Jensons' as a family, but no one specifically - sorry :) The same with the Cheesemans, Grists, Bullocks, but these were Colesbourne families. A memory that was stirred was the sad death of Melvyn Green when he was about 7, so that would be during the summer hols of 1955. Apparently he was sliding down the bannisters of the recently completed but unoccupied flats on Allaway Avenue between Wooferton and Nailsworth Roads and fell in to the stairwell. His Mum used to serve at the Cross Keys for years: always dolled up and 'dripping with tom' as they would say these days.
When I started at Paulsgrove Juniors (not Hillside) the first year was held in the Baptist church hall opposite the Cross Keys (Mr Elliot was the teacher) the second year was at the Jubilee Road site (now flattened, according to Google Earth) with an American exchange teacher, Mr Parsons. Mr Colley, who had a deformed back with a pronounced hump, was the Head. He caned me more than once!!
Barry
At 19:50 on 26th September 2014, Barry commented:
Hi Malcolm,i remember you vaugley but i mgot too know Jim more as he was a fitter on one of the hire firms localy.Not sure if it wasnt Cosham plant hire.I lived at 24 in Camcross.Had brothers Dave,Trevor (rip) Sandra ,Beryl,Margaret Pam nad Mona..The cheesemans lived 2 doors from me at number 20.I am almost sure,when i was a young lad the people that lived acroos the alley from you had a house fire.Mcfeeters moved in there after i think.I could be wrong though..regards
ChocolateTeapot
At 00:00 on 17th October 2014, ChocolateTeapot commented:
Barry, hi. Yes, Jim was with Sam Tidy on the Southampton Road which I think became Cosham Plant. He passed in Dec '98 at age 55. My sister was also Margaret (Jim's twin) an my eldest brother was Stuart. He's now in Lincolnshire. I remember the house fire. It was at the other end of our block (at no 30) and I think the Adnals lived across the alley. Can't remember who moved in afterwards, but the Gallaghers lived there some time after. The McFeeters were across the alley from us and were there before we arrived in 1950. Terry and Gwervyl as I recall: Terry has gone as well. Oh! dear! The remorseless March of time. Life has no survivors ... All the best :-)
ChocolateTeapot
At 00:01 on 17th October 2014, ChocolateTeapot commented:
Barry, hi. Yes, Jim was with Sam Tidy on the Southampton Road which I think became Cosham Plant. He passed in Dec '98 at age 55. My sister was also Margaret (Jim's twin) an my eldest brother was Stuart. He's now in Lincolnshire. I remember the house fire. It was at the other end of our block (at no 30) and I think the Adnals lived across the alley. Can't remember who moved in afterwards, but the Gallaghers lived there some time after. The McFeeters were across the alley from us and were there before we arrived in 1950. Terry and Gwervyl as I recall: Terry has gone as well. Oh! dear! The remorseless March of time. Life has no survivors ... All the best :-)
Eddy
At 15:58 on 22nd May 2015, Eddy commented:
Hi All I wonder if any reader has a picture of the original Hillside Infants School ,which consisted of 2or 3 wooden buildings. I went there from 1939 to 1942
i c
At 22:26 on 10th August 2016, i c commented:
hello Barry Irene Burley here was Coles Im trying to find a very good school friend Margaret Bull she married Jimmy Hope she lived on the corner of Coles bourne Rd the Woferton Rd end her and her parents moved to Southbourne when she was about 14. Her brothers were Richard and Dennis Also would like to remind you about the Coronation day My sister was born that day and there was great excitment when the Lady Mayoress came and presented my Mum with a silver spoon for the birth of my sister Elizabeth Thanks for the story of your life in Paulsgrove really enjoyed reading it all
Chris
At 15:19 on 16th September 2016, Chris commented:
John Coleman is my brother-in-law
Chris
At 15:19 on 16th September 2016, Chris commented:
John Coleman is my brother-in-law
i c
At 23:49 on 17th September 2016, i c commented:
Hello Chris was so pleased to get a response to my message I can remember your brother in law John or Johnny as we used to know him We lived next door to the Coleman's ,it was Marilyn who helped me dress for my wedding day Also there was a boy called Kenny Valentine who lived there I used to help him with his paper round would love to hear any more news about them all
i c
At 23:49 on 17th September 2016, i c commented:
Hello Chris was so pleased to get a response to my message I can remember your brother in law John or Johnny as we used to know him We lived next door to the Coleman's ,it was Marilyn who helped me dress for my wedding day Also there was a boy called Kenny Valentine who lived there I used to help him with his paper round would love to hear any more news about them all
i c
At 17:18 on 18th September 2016, i c commented:
Hi have thought of a few more we named e s that might ring a bell with someone out there Tina Morley ,Jeanette Parfoot,Girls who were at Jean Carter's School of Dancing during the early 50s Valerie Lambert,Bobby Player Barry Carter I believe he is no longer alive??Jean Carter used to hold her dancing lessons in the church hall.Pauline Norris who lived in Colesbourne RD Does anyone remember policeman who used to live of Woferton RD I also remember the Gallaghers especially John any one who knows anything about these persons I would like to hear from them would be interesting to hear how their lives went
ChocolateTeapot
At 20:10 on 18th September 2016, ChocolateTeapot commented:
The policeman off Wooferton (Rothwell Close) was Gillam, but can't remember his first name. I seem to recall he had a Reliant van (pre-Del boy, the one with the girder type motorcycle forks). I believe he also ran the local Boy's Brigade. Another policeman at the lower end of Colesbourne was Holland (can't remember his first name either). He used to spend his winter evenings walking his dog and knocking the doors of those whose cars weren't showing parking lights after dark. Not too many in those days and he was just doing his job, I guess, but nobody thought that at the time!! He used to direct traffic on Fratton Bridge and was described by the Evening News as 'Mr Wonderful': mind you he was good at it and looked a bit like a windmill at busy times. Johnny Gallagher lived on the other end of the block of four houses from my Mum (30 Colesbourne). Bit of a Jack-the-lad as I recall, but got on well with my Mum and Dad, always polite to them.
i c
At 20:56 on 18th September 2016, i c commented:
Thank you CTYes you are right about P C in Rothwell and police man in Colesbourne first name was a Nick name Dutch Holland For years he was a beat officer on Cosham High Street very big man so no lads ever argued with him Also yes all family of Gallaghers ran close to the mark but harmless do you remember the Bull family that lived in Colesbourne Rd boys were Richard Dennis and Daughter Margaret want to find out what happened to her as she was once my very best friend ???
Schilly777
At 22:05 on 18th September 2016, Schilly777 commented:
Hi Barry. Just a quick question but do the names Nelly Farrant or Josephine (Josie) Farrant or Streets ring any bells to you?
Thank you
Barry
At 14:31 on 23rd September 2016, Barry commented:
I am afraid not Schilly 777
Robert Easton
At 18:07 on 29th December 2016, Robert Easton commented:
Hi Barry it was great to read your story on your childhood memories it took me right back to the days of cutting down the bushes on ports down hill and dragging them back to our garden at 90 Chedworth, I do remember you coming in for a cup of tea after we had finished for the day. Rob Easton now living in Denmead again thanks for the memories and the very best of luck for 2017
Barry
At 13:47 on 11th January 2017, Barry commented:
Hi again Schilly,the only Streets I knew lived on the corner of Withington Close and Colesbourne Rd.Can remember Dave Street.
Barry
At 13:47 on 11th January 2017, Barry commented:
Hi again Schilly,the only Streets I knew lived on the corner of Withington Close and Colesbourne Rd.Can remember Dave Street.
Barry
At 13:50 on 11th January 2017, Barry commented:
Hi Bob,nice to hear from you. Glad I bought some old memories back to you..I still in Paulsgrove,Tintern Close which isn't to far away from where we all grew up. Take care and you also good 2017
Robert Easton
At 18:28 on 11th January 2017, Robert Easton commented:
Hi Barry great to hear from you, it's been many years, I was speaking with John Corcoran the week end he is a good friend of my son, they both share a very keen interest in racing pigeons, John was telling me you belong to the same bowls club, he refused to say if you have beaten him, best of luck with your next game. Bob
Mick keysell
At 09:06 on 1st March 2017, Mick keysell commented:
Hi Barry my name is mick keysell and I grew up in Hatherley rd .I first want to say how sad I was to learn that your brother Trevor had passed.We were friends from1969 -1974 when I left England and I have great memories of that time.Iremember you as a sharp dressed rocker with perfect combed hair and your sister Beryl a beautiful,hippy girl.Trevor and I got around with Mickey Quinn who lived in chedworth and who led us into all sorts of mischief never a dull moment and laughter all the way.We would hang around paulsgrove shops and the grove club where Trevor introduced us to Deep Purple And hard rock Later we moved on to the Beacon pub and met a cast of characters straight out of a novel . Trevor went out with Jackie a girl from Wymering and I went out with her friend Glynis' Other characters I remember Martin White Tony Doe Stephen Antrim(bubbles) Trevor Grifiths (Aubrey) Steve. Judd Frank Mccrohan Charlie Howard Rooey Grey to name a few . Anyway I have been fascinated by your stories and hope my input may trigger some more cheers mick
Barry
At 05:21 on 13th March 2017, Barry commented:
Hi Mick,thanks for making comments about my article. Trevor has been dead since early 90s as has my younger sister Sandra..Beryl is still about and is on f/b. Her name is Beryl Holmes..I remember most of the people you have mentioned. Had set too with Tony Doe in the beacon one evening..I then worked with him in later years.Glad I bought back some good memories.Take care
Mick keysell
At 09:46 on 13th March 2017, Mick keysell commented:
Hi Barry so glad you replied but sorry to hear you lost your sister Sandra , I knew her also from my friendship with Trevor.Do you know what happened to Mick and Joe Quinn?And perhaps you remember the Saunders family that lived in Wooferton rd , I believe they were friends with Lizzie and Peter Coles , the Andrews family that also lived in Wooferton ( big family) I recall Dave Binstead was the guy with the fastest sledge on the hill when we were kids These may seem like trivial things but I have lived in Australia for the last 37 years so to read stories from my childhood and youth is very special for me and I hope to hear more from you . All the very best to you Barry
Mick keysell
At 09:46 on 13th March 2017, Mick keysell commented:
Hi Barry so glad you replied but sorry to hear you lost your sister Sandra , I knew her also from my friendship with Trevor.Do you know what happened to Mick and Joe Quinn?And perhaps you remember the Saunders family that lived in Wooferton rd , I believe they were friends with Lizzie and Peter Coles , the Andrews family that also lived in Wooferton ( big family) I recall Dave Binstead was the guy with the fastest sledge on the hill when we were kids These may seem like trivial things but I have lived in Australia for the last 37 years so to read stories from my childhood and youth is very special for me and I hope to hear more from you . All the very best to you Barry
Barry
At 13:19 on 31st March 2017, Barry commented:
Hi Mick,ref Joe Quinn,I see him in Cosham now and again but don't know about Mick. I was a good friend of Peter Coles (rip) Pete died a few years ago as did his wife Janice.I remember also the Saunders family as well as the Andrews.Dave Banstead is still about in the Paulsgrove area.What part of Australia do you live as I have been there 4 times over the years.Also thanks for your comments Mick. My youth is vivid to me .Some people seem to resent me mentioning it but memories are we all end up with Mick and some unfortunately dont.take care
Barry
At 07:30 on 17th June 2017, Barry commented:
Hi againMick,met Joe and his wife Sue in Cosham and Joe told me that Mike was killed while working on high voltage cables a number of years ago while in Ireland

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